I've spent a lot of time looking into the best pre/intra workout products and have used quite a few supplements over the past several years. Right now I'm using Xtreme Formulations ICE, lemon freeze flavor combined with VPX Powershock, lime splash flavor. The combination is better than each product by itself. Each one gets a 5 rating from me, the combo is even better than that. The pumps are great, I'm not hitting the wall at all and I'm recovering faster than ever. These are great benefits! I consider these staples in my program even though they are pricey. This is th eway to go if you want amazing pumps, great workout energy and great recovery, not to mention the taste is not bad at all!!! This is a great combo, I've already turned on some friends to it and they all had THE SAME RESULTS I had! Drop the cash and give this combo a try! They last a good while, I wouldn't train without them! This is THE WAY TO GO!!!! I highly recommend this stack! Give it a try!! You won't regret it!