The Ce2 Hi Def and No2 Platinum took about 18 to 20 days before really noticing the effects. Now, however, it's like I don't get sore even after being in the gym for hours. If I do get sore after a full workout I just simply take a 5 to 10 minute break and my body feels like it's ready to work out again. I bought another bottle of No2, which I recommend, because this stack does take patience and time.

I've been using a lot of different creatine products over the years and this has become a mainstay in my stack. You tend to think it's not working if you don't get that bloat but once I stopped using it I could see a big difference. I didn't lose size but I did lose strength and I found I was getting much more sore after a workout. This is also a thermogenic and it does a good job of keeping the fat off. I've used several bottles and I have no plans to change. Great product!!